THE BEST WHEELSET FOR THE MONEY – PART 2
Summary: Value-carbon wheels that some call the “best wheelset for the money” sell for between US$900/£750/€900 to $1500/£1300/€1500. While a few have particular strengths, none match the range and level of performance of wheelsets that cost nearly twice as much. Some also come with very limited warranties.
The best value-carbon wheels I’ve found are the Zipp 303 S for cyclists committed to riding tubeless tires and available here for North American residents and here for those in Europe from stores I recommend for their competitive prices and customer satisfaction ratings, and the Bontrager Pro 37 for those who prefer to ride tubed clincher tires and available here and here. You can read my reviews of them starting here.
What is the best wheelset for the money? Should I consider Chinese carbon wheels from Yoeleo, Farsports, Light Bicycle, and others? What should I expect of relatively inexpensive bicycle wheels that are only sold online from brands like Prime wheels, FLO Cycling, or Hunt wheels? What about those wheelsets from Profile Design or Rolf Prima that are available primarily through US retailers?
How do these compare to more expensive carbon wheelsets and the lower-priced carbon models widely available from the long-established, better-known wheel makers like Zipp, Bontrager, Reynolds, and Fulcrum?
That’s how I opened Part 1 of my Best Wheelset for the Money. In that post, I laid out a way to compare the companies making all-around carbon wheelsets selling in the US$900/£750/€900 to $1500/£1300/€1500 price range. I provided you, my fellow road cycling enthusiast on a tight budget yet still wanting carbon wheels, perspective on how those companies approach engineering, production, sales, and service differently.
The post also included info about how long these companies have been selling carbon wheels, how much each company appears to be involved in the design and manufacturing of the carbon wheelsets they sell, what return, crash replacement, and warranty policies they offer, and what the price and design specs are for their <$1500 all-around wheelsets.
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All of this was intended to help you learn more about the companies whose wheelsets you might consider buying beyond the relatively low price of their carbon wheels. I certainly have, and I imagine you all have some basic requirements that must be met before spending a good chunk of change on cycling gear from any company. Hopefully, the added knowledge about these companies, some of which you may have known little or nothing about before, will help you in your decision-making.
What I didn’t do in that first post was share with you my on-the-road performance evaluations of these value-carbon wheels. Once I’m good with the company behind a wheelset and the price being in my budget range, performance matters most.
First, I’ll share my experience on how the performance of value-carbon wheels differs from that of full-priced performance-carbon wheels and lower-priced alloy upgrade wheels. Then, I’ll first summarize how the companies selling value-carbon wheels approach the business in different ways, the focus of what I laid out in Part 1.
Finally, I’ll give you my performance reviews for those value-carbon wheelsets we have completed testing.
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WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE BEST VALUE-CARBON WHEELS
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Performance differs between value-carbon, performance-carbon and alloy upgrade wheels
Companies selling value-carbon wheels use dissimilar approaches to hit similar price targets
These reviews describe the performance of the best and a range of other value-carbon wheelsets
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PERFORMANCE DIFFERS BETWEEN VALUE-CARBON AND OTHER CARBON AND ALLOY WHEELS
I’ve frequently heard some riders say value-carbon wheels, those that sell in the US$900/£750/€900 to $1500/£1300/€1500 price range get you 80%-90% of the performance at 1/2 to 1/3 of the price of full-priced or what I’ll call “performance-carbon wheels”.
While that is a memorable line, it lacks the context to make it useful, let alone accurate.
It’s really hard to make any overarching statement like that without knowing, for example:
- Which value-carbon wheels and which performance-carbon wheels are you comparing?
- Which performance characteristics are you considering?
- Which characteristics are most important to you in making a wheelset decision?
As you likely know and can see on the home page, I and my fellow In The Know Cycling testers review and compare a half-dozen or more wheelsets from an entire category that are intended for a similar purpose and put it into a single post for you. Which are the best climbing or all-around or aero wheelsets? Which are the best alloy upgrade wheelsets? Which are the best wheelsets in each of those categories for rim brake bikes vs. disc brake bikes? And how do you choose between those categories to find the best for you?
While there are performance characteristics that are unique to each category or more important when comparing wheels in some categories versus others, there are a handful of characteristics that are important across all categories.
Most of the value-carbon wheels I am reviewing in search of “the best wheelset for the money” are all-around category wheels. This category includes mid-depth (40-50mm) wheelsets that are intended to be used for training and road racing, on the flats and in the climbs, mostly on the road but also for a modest amount of cross or dirt riding off of it as well.
As the “all-around” description suggests, these wheels are good in most situations if not ideally suited for one specific terrain (e.g. climbing), event (e.g. time trials), or surface (e.g. smooth, paved roads).
The performance criteria I and my fellow testers use in evaluating wheelsets in this category, and most other categories to a greater or lesser degree, are versatility, specificity, aero drag, sidewind stability, lateral stiffness, vertical compliance (aka comfort), responsiveness, durability, and for rim brake wheels, braking. You can read more about what I mean by each of these on my wheelset selection criteria page.
In this section, I’ve compared some of the better and average value-carbon wheels against some of the better and average performance-carbon wheels and alloy upgrade wheels made for rim brake and disc brake road bikes using these same criteria.
This is a fool’s errand but I’m a fool and am trying to provide you a general reference point of what to expect for a specific performance characteristic between wheelsets we’ve tested representative of these three different groups. This will hopefully be better than the horribly inexact and simplistic “x% of the performance at y% of the price” statement I mentioned at the top of this section that some people lean on.
I’ve no doubt that I will get comments from some saying my $500 alloy wheelset far outperforms the $3000 carbon wheelset those I race against or ride with use in this or that situation. I won’t try to confirm or explain why your experience or evaluation differs from mine.
My fellow testers and I have ridden, compared, and reviewed many, many wheelsets. You can read and compare my take on whatever wheelsets you are interested in by entering the wheelset name in the “Find a review…” box at the top of the page.
Rather, what follows is a distillation of our experience.
Versatility
(Comparative Performance Key: + Better, 0 Par, – Worse)
The most desirable all-around wheels will provide the versatility to ride different types of terrain (hills, flats, false flats, straights, corners, sprints, mountains, fast downhills, windy roads) that you’ll experience and a range of training and many events (club races, centuries, club, charity, group rides) you’ll do without compromise.
With the growing popularity of cyclocross and gravel or dirt riding, you can add a wheelset’s ability to ride road and these off-road situations to the versatility consideration.
Performance-carbon wheelsets clearly have an advantage here. The better and many of the average rim and disc wheelsets are more aero, responsive and comfortable, and climb better than value-carbon or alloy upgrade wheels we’ve ridden. That makes them more versatile for the range of terrain you might ride, events you might do, and surfaces you might traverse, especially if you are comparing the more modern disc brake wheelsets.
The better and average value-carbon wheels I’ve tested are somewhat more versatile than the better and average alloy upgrade wheels. Being deeper and with good hubs, they are better at holding aero speeds above 20mph/32kph. In quite a few cases, however, that comes with crosswind management issues that you don’t experience with the shallow alloy upgrade wheels (or the more advanced rim profile designs of the performance-carbon all-around depth wheels).
While most of the value-carbon wheels are wider than most of the alloy upgrade wheels, I haven’t found the former group to be any more comfortable. This limits your desire to want to ride them off-road (and in some cases on it).
To fill out the versatility consideration, I think about how much I’d like to climb with these wheels. The value-carbon wheels are generally a bit heavier than the performance-carbon ones. Others are not as stiff. I haven’t found any that are as light and stiff as the better and average performance-carbon wheelsets.
Alloy upgrade wheelsets, though shallower than value-carbon ones, aren’t noticeably lighter and often not as stiff. This limits their versatility.
Specificity
(Comparative Performance Key: + Better, 0 Par, – Worse)
With less engineering put into value-carbon wheels than performance-carbon ones and almost none going toward new alloy-upgrade ones, it’s unlikely that you’ll find terrain, surface, or discipline-specific wheelsets that perform at the same level as performance-carbon ones outside of those from that category.
Value-carbon wheels often have some combination of older rim profiles, lower speced carbon layups, or less advanced hubs. From a performance sense, this makes them less aero for flats and speed disciplines and heavier for climbing and many road racing ones than performance-carbon wheels. They’ll also usually not have as wide to enhance comfort or as stable in side winds.
Modern alloy wheels, for the most part, aren’t designed for specific terrain, surfaces, or events. The limitations with shaping the rims and the added weight that comes with a wider or deeper rim removes them from the ability to compete on specificity.
Aerodynamic Drag and Sidewind Stability
(Comparative Performance Key: + Better, 0 Par, – Worse)
With few exceptions, this is quite clear-cut and for understandable reasons. The better and even average performance-carbon wheelsets tend to have more engineering invested in developing rims that are more aero and stable in the normal 0 to 10-degree yaw angles and 10mph+ side winds than value-carbon ones.
Depending on the company’s strategy and business activities (see Part 1), value-carbon wheels generally come with rims designs used in earlier generation performance-carbon wheels made by the company or are older designs from companies that just can’t afford to invest in updating the rims as often as those in performance-carbon wheelsets or are copies of generation or two-old performance-carbon rims.
Alloy upgrade wheels are typically in the 25mm +/- rim depth. This makes them about 20mm shallower than the value-carbon and performance-carbon wheelsets. At aero speeds, you will notice a difference. On the flip side, many of the value-carbon wheels with their older designs require a good deal of side wind management whereas the shallower wheels generally don’t.
No, I don’t test wheels in the In The Know Cycling wind tunnel. (There isn’t such a thing.) Instead, my observations are anecdotal and based on riding a lot of wheelsets at different aero speeds and wind conditions over time and doing back-to-back rides in similar conditions. The more aero wheels maintain their momentum at aero speeds better than less aero ones.
Lateral Stiffness
(Comparative Performance Key: + Better, 0 Par, – Worse)
Stiffness is a performance characteristic that is specific to a wheelset. Some are stiffer than others regardless of the category of wheels they might fall into. There are plenty of stiff wheels that transfer your power efficiently within each category and at each price point.
You can see which wheelsets are stiffer in the charts that summarize and compare performance within each category review.
Vertical Compliance (aka Comfort)
(Comparative Performance Key: + Better, 0 Par, – Worse)
Comfort is relative and very much in the eye of the beholder or should I say hands and rear end or the biker. We used to ride around on 15C wide alloy wheels pumped up to 120 psi with nary a complaint about comfort.
Now, the focus on comfort seems to be a sub-industry unto itself with some tires and wheels sold on the premise that their width will provide you comfort.
A few things to point out first. Comfort is an outcome of a wheelset’s vertical compliance, what tires you use, and how much you inflate them. You can make a wheel more or less comfortable by running it tubeless, using better tires, and lowering the pressure.
But, you can only do so much to make a wheelset comfortable given its compliance. Vertical compliance is determined by the wheel’s rim, spoke, and hub materials and how they are aligned and assembled.
All the marketing around a wider rim making for a more comfortable ride is misleading. If everything I’ve written about above is the same between two wheels, then yes, a wider rim on a wheelset could be more comfortable. But, all else is never the same between wheels from two different companies and there’s often enough difference that width isn’t the dominant factor in determining comfort.
Indeed, I found a 16mm wide (internal) value-carbon wheelset with 23C tubed tires inflated at 75 psi to be clearly more comfortable than a 21mm wide (internal) value-carbon wheelset with 25C tubeless tires inflated at 60 psi ridden on the same roads.
While it is unusual to find that situation, it illustrates the point that wheelset width does not predict comfort. Vertical compliance along with tire choice and inflation pressure does and there’s no way to predict compliance from specs. I set up our performance-carbon and value-carbon wheels tubeless using the same brand, model, and size tires and at the same pressures. I was also able to spec most of the value-carbon wheelsets we tested with DT Swiss 240 hubs, a top-performing hub used on the best wheelsets in all three groups.
Some 19C wheelsets will be more comfortable than some 21C wheelsets. One 19C wheelset will be comfortable, another will be passable while a third will be harsh. It’s just not about the rim width.
For those of you focused on tire width, know also that aero performance, handling and comfort are interdependent. You just can’t put on a set of 28C tires to improve comfort without potentially affecting your aero performance and handling. I wrote this post about that subject. And, one brand’s 25C tire can be a millimeter wider than a 25C tire from another brand, and both are almost never going to be as narrow as 25mm once mounted and inflated on even a 17C wheel.
So what about the vertical compliance of the three different groups of wheelsets?
Like stiffness, a lateral measure that is also dependent on the wheel’s rim, spokes, and hub materials and how they are aligned and assembled, vertical compliance is unique to a wheelset.
That said, I’ve found the better and average performance-carbon wheels as a group of individual wheelsets to be more comfortable than either better and average value-carbon or alloy upgrade wheels.
I’m not sure why this is but I’ll guess it’s simply a result of money. More engineering goes into performance-carbon wheels than either of the other types. Companies are hip to the reality that we cyclists want comfort today so the companies making performance-carbon wheels spend the money to engineer their wheels to be more compliant. The others either can’t afford to or don’t choose to.
Responsiveness
(Comparative Performance Key: + Better, 0 Par, – Worse)
Responsiveness is a measure of how quickly a wheelset accelerates from a stop or when you attempt to accelerate while underway from one speed to a much faster one. You accelerate most often after slowing at a stoplight or sign or after making a turn. If you race or group ride, you might accelerate to start a breakaway, move past someone slowing in front of you, kick it in on a hill, or when doing a sprint for the town line or finish line.
I’ve found that performance-carbon wheels are some of the most responsive around. This certainly isn’t the case with all performance-carbon wheels, but I’ve seldom found value-carbon or alloy upgrade wheels to be as responsive.
You might wonder, if stiffness is wheelset specific why wouldn’t responsiveness be as well? It’s hard to pinpoint exactly why for a given wheelset but some combination of stiffness, aerodynamics, weight, carbon layup, hub engagement, spoke placement, and perhaps other factors will determine how responsive a wheel is when you try to accelerate. Performance-carbon wheels can give you some combination of more aero, lighter, using higher-grade carbon or better hubs than either value-carbon or alloy upgrade wheels.
Value-carbon wheels are usually more aero but heavier than alloy upgrade ones. This might explain why I’ve found little difference in their responsiveness.
Braking
(Comparative Performance Key: + Better, 0 Par, – Worse)
This criterion, of course, relates only to rim brake wheels. For disc brake wheels, braking performance is determined by the brakes and rotors rather than the wheels, assuming the hubs and spoke bracing are structurally up to the job.
When evaluating a rim brake wheelset’s braking, I consider how much force is needed to slow or stop your wheels and how well you can modulate that force to control the rate of your deceleration as the two primary measures of braking quality.
If you use a good set of brake levers and calipers, well-maintained cables, the appropriate brake pads for the wheels, and properly aligned, spaced, and adjusted calipers, then differences in braking performance are going to be all about the difference in the brake tracks.
I recognize that’s a big if so if you are unsure whether your brakes are set up right, check out this video for a little home-wrenching advice.
Wheels with alloy brake tracks still perform the best in dry and wet road conditions. The better and even average performance-carbon wheels are damn close in dry conditions and the better ones are not far off alloy upgrade wheels on wet roads.
The current generation of performance-carbon wheels has closed the braking performance gap by texturing or treating their carbon brake tracks to increase the friction during braking, using improved resins to raise the temperature at which brake tracks heat up and fade or worse kicks in, and by advancing the manufacturing techniques in their rim lay-up process.
Unfortunately, most value-carbon rim brake wheels perform more like earlier generation carbon wheels. While some use higher temperature resins, I’ve not seen any with textured or treated tracks. Manufacturing techniques vary. The force isn’t there to slow the wheels nearly as much as textured or treated tracks and you’ll experience squealing and/or fading as the tracks heat up from repeated braking.
Those from companies with several generations of experience making carbon wheels shouldn’t warp and delaminate if you don’t drag your brakes (apply them 10-15 seconds or longer) and if you do use carbon braking techniques (alternate front and back wheels, brake no longer than 5 seconds at a time, brake hard initially on wet roads to squeeze out the water).
HOW COMPANIES SELLING VALUE-CARBON WHEELS DO BUSINESS
There are two dimensions along which I organize the companies selling “the best wheelset for the money” or what I’m calling value-carbon wheels that sell in the US$900/£750/€900 to $1500/£1300/€1500 price range.
SCOPE – By scope, I’m referring to the range of business activities and operations, number and range of products, breadth of the cycling market segments served, or countries and geographies the companies sell to. Those selling value-carbon wheels either have a broad or focused scope.
SALES – Companies today are selling wheels (and most cycling products) through dealers, either online or at shops that represent them, or directly to cyclists from their own company websites.
Companies combine their scope and sales approach to follow one of four primary strategies shown in the chart below. You can read about each of these strategies in more detail here.
Within those strategies, companies either conduct or have other companies conduct for them a set of business activities shown in the chart below and described in more detail here.
A wheelset’s price is determined in part by how comprehensive or limited these business activities are. The price is also determined by how much margin companies need to put on top of the operating and investment costs of those activities and others supporting them to make an acceptable return and stay competitive in the market.
You can often find a lower-priced wheelset if you put a lesser value on some of these activities. Some of the companies selling value-carbon wheels spend less on those activities than others either by doing them more efficiently, by narrowing the scope of what goes into them, or by contracting some of those activities out to lower-cost sources.
For example, if you don’t put a lot of value into the research or testing that goes into some bike wheels, you can typically find lower priced ones from companies that don’t spend a lot on those activities and select the rim, hub, and spoke choices offered by those that have. On the other hand, if you want a set of wheels with a brand name the company has spent money to build through design, marketing, and service, you will likely pay more.
Do you care who or where the wheelset is made, how long it takes to get, how well it is made, or how long the warranty is? All those preferences have costs or cost savings associated with them.
The conventional thinking is that price differences are primarily guided by whether companies sell wheels and other cycling products through their distributors or direct to consumers. The reality is that the price differences between value-carbon wheelsets (and value-carbon and more expensive wheelsets) come because companies make a wide range of choices about how they run their business.
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REVIEWS OF VALUE-CARBON WHEELSETS
1. Integrateds
Integrateds themselves do the activities or actively manage what others do integral to designing, producing, selling, and servicing wheels. They all use distributors and sell principally through online or shop dealers though some also sell direct from their company stores.
Since the Integrateds build wheels in advance and their distributors buy and stock the wheels for their dealers, you can usually order and get value-carbon wheels from them immediately or within days, the time it takes the order to ship to you from an online store or from a dealer to a local bike shop.
All the Integrateds sell more expensive performance-carbon wheelsets, certainly a greater range and most likely a larger number than the value-carbon wheelsets they sell.
These companies do the research, design, and testing that goes into the rims and, in many cases, the hubs they sell. Many make, assemble, and QC their own wheels. Other companies have subcontractors do the actual production for them using production lines and molds dedicated to their wheelsets while they as Integrateds define and oversee the material, construction, assembly, and testing methods that go into making these wheels.
Bontrager Aeolus Pro 37 TLR – A Best Value for standard tire devotees
Performance: The Bontrager Aeolus Pro 37 is a wheelset that seems designed for the value-carbon road disc rider from the get-go. It is a capable performer in all the key areas I look for in an all-around road disc wheelset.
“Capable performer” may read like a backhanded compliment. I don’t intend it to be. It’s just that nearly all the wheelsets in the value-carbon category have one or more major performance weaknesses that limit what you can do with them and this Bontrager doesn’t.
While the Aeolus Pro 37 doesn’t perform at the level of $2000 and up carbon road disc wheelsets, its ride gave me equal or better performance across the board compared to other wheelsets I’ve tested within hailing distance of the Aeolus Pro 37’s $1300 price-point.
It accelerates well and climbs without restrictions. It was plenty stiff enough for me doing either of those efforts and when I powered up for some town-line sprints.
Shod with 25C Continental Grand Prix 5000 tubed tires at 70 psi for my roughly 145lbs/66kg weight, I found this Aeolus Pro 37 wheelset’s comfort and handling good – neither outstanding nor lacking.
The DT Swiss 350 rear hub freewheels with nary a whisper, allowing you to enjoy the peace of your ride or the calls from paceline mates. Audible preferences aside, they perform inconspicuously, neither rolling or engaging noticeably better or worse than most hubs in its price range.
I rode these wheels with standard clincher tires and tubes and I’d recommend you do as well. Bontrager includes a cloth-like strap that simply stretches over the wheel’s sidewalls and snaps into place over the rim bed’s spoke holes.
To go tubeless, Aeolus rims require plastic strips that added over 100g to these wheels and aren’t easy to install. I snapped one and couldn’t get the other one centered correctly. You can also use rim tape to seal the beds for tubeless or tube-type tires, but that takes a bit of experience to get right.
I also found installing my recommended Continental Grand Prix 5000 TL tubeless tires was a lot of work to mount and more work to get off than you’d ever want to deal with on the road. That’s just what happens with this tire and some rims, but this is one of those bad combinations. The tubed Grand Prix 5000 version mounts easily.
While I recognize everyone has different tastes and therefore don’t usually share my opinion on the looks of a wheelset, I will say that if you prefer stealthy looking, matt finished rims with sufficient badging to let people know what you are riding, these Bontragers will be right up your alley.
Design: As with most bike wheels introduced lately, this model year 2020 Bontrager Aeolus Pro 37 TLR wheelset is only made with a disc brake option and is “tubeless ready”. As per my comments above, I’d recommend you ride it with a tubed-tire setup.
The wheelset with the easy-to-install cloth-like straps for tubed tires weighed 1519 grams on my scale. With the plastic tubeless strips, the weight increased to 1648 grams.
The rims I rode measured 21.2 mm wide on the inside (between the rim hooks) and 27.8 mm on the outside near where the tire and rim join. With the 25C Continental Grand Prix 5000 tubed tires at my benchmark 100psi, the tires measure 27.6 mm wide. At a more comfortable 80psi, they run 27.4 mm. True to its name, the rims measured 37.0 mm deep.
The carbon rim’s profile starts off on the inner spoke edge with a softened V profile and quickly adopts a U shape as it travels toward the outer tire edges. The spokes are bladed DT Swiss Aerolites attaching to the rim with external alloy nipples. The hubset is also a DT Swiss branded 350 model.
Quality: While I’ve usually found Bontrager wheels to be very well built, the easy-to-break, hard-to-center tubeless rim strips that I wrote about above were disappointing.
The rim and hub shell finish are first-rate. The decal labels also appear to be well adhered and integrated nicely into the rim design.
Bontrager’s crash replacement policy for these and all their carbon wheels is very strong. They will replace or repair your wheels for free within 2 years of when you bought them no matter how they get damaged and provide a 50% discount to repair or replace them for as long as you own them after that.
They offer a lifetime materials and workmanship warranty. You can also return them if unused within 30 days for a full refund.
Price: You can use these links to order the Bontrager Aeolus Pro 37 for USD$1500, £1250, €1400 direct from Bontrager or from Sigma Sports.
For a slightly deeper option better suited for wider tires and maintaining higher speeds on flat and rolling terrain, I suggest you consider the Pro 37’s big brother, the Bontrager Aeolus Pro 51 reviewed below that sells for the same price.
Zipp 303 S – A Best Value for tubeless road disc riders
Performance: If the Zipp 303 S Tubeless Disc-Brake wheelset I rode for this review didn’t have the Zipp logo on the side of its rims, I wouldn’t have guessed it was from Zipp.
It has better than average lateral stiffness and average vertical compliance (aka comfort). That’s the opposite of most every Zipp wheelset I’ve ever ridden, and I’ve ridden quite a few in the 202, 303, and 404 series.
The high lateral stiffness is certainly welcome. Over the years, I’ve suggested to many larger or heavier than average readers that they go with a wheelset that is stiffer than those from Zipp. Lateral stiffness also translates to good handling in these wheels and effective climbing for a wheelset of its weight.
Less than Zipp-like comfort in the 303 S isn’t a knock per se and it’s certainly not an issue. These are more like the comfort of the average mid-depth carbon wheelset. I did many 50 mile rides on them without any compliance-induced fatigue. It’s just that I had just gotten used to Zipp wheels being supremely comfortable.
You can certainly make these wheels ride more comfortably by using a 28C tire. But you’ll pay a speed penalty doing so, much as you do with nearly every other wheelset these days as the tires will be wider than the rims and greatly diminish the aerodynamic performance. For more on this topic and tires I used and recommend against for these wheels, see the details in my dedicated review of the 303 S here.
Despite their 45mm depth, I felt only a small amount of “free speed” with the narrower 25C Schwalbe tires mounted on the 303 S. The pedaling effort (aka “watts”) I put into creating forward momentum with the 25C and 28C Zipp tires didn’t feel any easier to maintain as it does with more aerodynamic wheel-tire combinations when my speed gets above 20mph.
The 3 pawl Zipp 76/176 hubset is one of the few design aspects or components that carry over from the 302. It’s pretty basic and pleasantly quiet and there’s certainly nothing objectionable about it. But don’t expect to get the same performance and smooth-rolling of the Cognition hub Zipp puts on its NSW wheels just because they have the same logo.
The 303 S wheels did take notice of crosswinds but didn’t trouble me much about them. That was a very good thing as they climbed very well for a wheelset their depth and weight.
Also new for Zipp, the 303 S wheelset along with the new 303 Firecrest is the first in their new gravel wheelset category. While what qualifies as a gravel or a road or cyclocross wheelset or one that’s well suited for all those disciplines these days is debatable, the 303 S internal width helps to make the gravel argument.
From my testing, however, they ride on gravel more like most 21mm road disc wheels that are only slightly narrower than this one’s actual 22.5 mm internal width (per my measurement) and not the 25C rim width platform I’ve found is best for 35mm and wider gravel tires.
Many ride 21mm (and 19mm and even 17mm) road wheels on gravel these days and you can certainly ride these as I did for many miles on various types of dirt and gravel terrain. But, these and 21C wheels lack the comfort and handling of wider, dedicated gravel wheels.
Because it’s a Zipp wheelset, I’ve reviewed it as critically as I would any wheelset that sells at historically Zipp-like prices. But this new Zipp wheelset sells for far less and should be compared to those from other brands in this review of value-carbon wheels that sell in the same price range.
Given its combination of stiffness, handling, climbing, and acceleration performance better than most others in this category along with Zipp’s broad dealer service network and lifetime warranty, this Zipp 303 S is a value-carbon wheelset Best Value pick for those already or willing to ride with tubeless tires on their disc brake bikes.
Design: These Zipp 303 S tubeless disc brake wheels have hookless rims that require you use tubeless tires. While most tubeless wheels these days have hooked rims that will lock in the flexible beads of tube-type clincher tires and give you the option to choose between going tubeless or tubed, you can only use tubeless tires on these wheels. If you aren’t on board with that, these wheels aren’t for you. And there is no rim brake version.
The wheels weighed 1556 on my scale with pre-installed rim tape but no tubeless valves. They measured 45.2mm deep with a 22.5mm inside and 27.5mm outside rim width. The rim profile starts V-shaped at the spoke bed and quickly transitions to more of a parallel U shape.
Zipp uses their 3-pawl 76/176 hubset on the 303 S, one they used previously on the first 302 and 303 Firecrest disc brake wheels. They use 24 bladed, j-bend spokes on the front and back with external nipples.
The rims are made and the wheels are assembled in SRAM’s Taiwan factory
Quality: Like many lower-priced wheelsets, the hubs use push-in end-caps. That’s usually not a problem but if you frequently remove the wheels and change the tires to go from a road to gravel set up as the 303 S are intended for you to do, it’s not difficult for the end-cap on the freehub to pull off from the weight of the cassette. It happened to me on a couple of changeovers and I had to scramble to put a pawl or two back in place. I was more careful after that.
Otherwise, the rims appear to be well-built and the wheelset assembled without issue.
Most notably, Zipp now gives the original owner a lifetime warranty on materials and workmanship for model year 2021 and later components including these wheels. They also have a “Life Happens” crash program that discounts repairs 50% for damages caused during transportation, accidents, and misuse.
As with the other integrated wheelset makers and different from those I put in the Regionals, Branded, and Manufacturers category, Zipp has an extensive dealer network and you can bring your wheels to any of them for service or warranty regardless of where you purchased them.
Price: The 303 S wheelset sells for US$1300, £875, €1120, a very un-Zipp-like price. That’s less than what you’d pay for just the front wheel of their top-of-the-line NSW wheels, US$900 below what was the price of their just replaced 303 Firecrest disc wheels, and US$200 less than the 302 disc wheelset that the Zipp 303 S is replacing.
You can order the 303 S at stores I recommend for their competitive prices, great selection, and high customer satisfaction ratings using these links to Competitive Cyclist, Planet Cyclery for North American residents, and Sigma Sports, Tredz (10% off for In The Know Cycling readers with code ITKTDZ10) for those in Europe.
ENVE 45 – Well-performing wheelset from a prestige brand
Most of us want a carbon road disc wheelset that does nearly everything well but can’t find one that also fits our preferred budget. So we either reduce our performance expectations to meet our budget target, increase our budget to hit our performance target, or keep looking and waiting for that one wheelset that meets both targets.
Enter the ENVE 45, a US$1750/£1850/€2220 carbon road disc wheelset from the company that makes some of the best performing wheels I and my fellow testers have ridden.
Before introducing the Foundation road wheel line that now includes the ENVE 45, a deeper ENVE 65 aero road wheelset (reviewed here), two gravel wheelsets, and an MTB one, all ENVE road wheels were part of the high-end crowd I call “performance-carbon” wheelsets. As the category name suggests, it includes the best performing wheels but they also sell for between $2000 and $3000, some more.
The ENVE 45’s US$ price puts them outside the range for the value-carbon wheels in this comparative review.
While most wheelsets also line up in value-carbon or performance-carbon categories in £ or € denominations, ENVE wheels sell for far more than the exchange rate would suggest when they leave the States for reasons I can’t explain. So at £1850 and €2220, the ENVE 45 lands in the lower end of the performance-carbon price range. Sorry chaps, mates, et mes amis.
Performance: So how does the ENVE 45 rate on the performance and value?
My headline – Well-performing value-carbon wheelset from a prestige brand at a modest price premium.
And, my sub-head – Not on par with the best performance-carbon wheels that cost a good deal more.
You had hoped for better? Me too. I was hoping for a performance-carbon level wheelset at a value-carbon price. The ENVE 45 isn’t it. Sadly, I haven’t found that wheelset anywhere as yet.
Most value-carbon wheels we’ve tested have at least one, and often several performance weaknesses. They are best when you are willing to compromise away things that really don’t matter as much to you.
So, maybe they aren’t super comfortable unless you put on tires that are wider than the rims. But since you aren’t all about going fast, you trade off some speed for added comfort and better handling at a good price.
Or perhaps they don’t respond with the kind of snap you’d read about from lighter wheels or make it easier going uphill. But since you aren’t racing and know that losing only 2kg (4.4 lbs) in your gut rather than 200 grams in your rims would make you a lot faster and get you to the top of climbs sooner, you pass on paying a grand more for snappy and light wheels that’d be wasted on your rides.
And maybe the price is so attractive that you look away from the warranty that gives you less than a two-year term, or covers only the rims, or makes you pay to ship it to another continent if you want to make a claim after 3 months.
Compared to others in the value-carbon wheelset category, the ENVE 45 Foundation wheels perform pretty well on nearly all of my performance criteria. And, they carry the ENVE brand prestige, albeit with rather understated decals on their matte black rims. Those rims are made and the entire wheels are assembled in the US, a point of pride and preference for some, and carry a longer-than-most 5-year warranty.
The ENVE 45 is plenty stiff and handles most terrain – flats, rollers, climbs – competently. They aren’t snappy but neither are they slow off the mark. They don’t favor one type of terrain like hills at the expense of another like flats or vice versa. They are true “all-arounds”.
Using the same ENVE alloy shell hubs with DT Swiss-like star ratchet internals that the company puts on their best-performing wheels, the ENVE 45 wheelset rolls smoothly and freewheels relatively quietly while engaging as fast as you need for a road wheelset.
With the right tires, they also handle confidently. Because they use hookless rims, you can’t put every tubeless tire on the ENVE 45 (and definitely not the Continental 5000 TL). But, per ENVE’s approved tire list (see here), you can use most including many I’ve reviewed and favor (see here).
If you are committed to using 28mm wide tires, know that the Bontrager R3 Hard-Case Lite will be the most aero choice among 28mm tires I’ve tested.
The 28mm Schwalbe Pro One TLE and Specialized S Works Turbo Rapid Air once mounted and inflated to my test pressure of about 60psi will measure about the same width as the rims. But since these are hookless rims, the tire-rim intersection will be a bit smoother than one with a hook so won’t likely have a big, negative aero effect.
More importantly, I rode the ENVE 45 with a few different 25mm tires mounted at different pressures and couldn’t find a comfortable combination. While as fast or faster than most of the value carbon wheels of similar depth, these ENVE Foundations didn’t offer the amount of added momentum or free-speed of performance-carbon wheels of similar depth or the deeper value-carbon, Bontrager Aeolus Pro 51 TLR.
The ENVE 45 also got pushed around a bit in the heavy, spring crosswinds we have in the Northeast US. Surprising for an ENVE wheelset but not much different than many value-carbon wheels.
If you are a multi-surface rider, know that these aren’t also gravel wheels. With a 21mm internal rim width, they really aren’t wide enough for more than smooth dirt roads where you’d use a 32mm wide tire at most. ENVE makes the AG25 (review coming) that is a dedicated gravel wheelset in their $1750 Foundation range. It has a 25mm internal rim width that supports gravel tires as wide as 45mm for the kind of comfort and handling you’d want on any class of gravel.
Compared to better all-around wheels in the more expensive performance-value category, the ENVE 45 doesn’t compete. They aren’t as responsive, don’t hold their speed as well, aren’t as impervious to crosswinds, don’t climb or handle any better, and are generally less compliant (comfortable).
But, if you are looking for a value-carbon wheelset that does most everything as well or better as others in this category, carries a bit of brand prestige and a superior warranty, and you are willing to pay a few hundred more for all of that, then the ENVE 45 is a good choice.
Design: As with most new wheelsets these days, the ENVE 45 is strictly a disc brake wheelset set up for Centerlock attachment for your rotors, and 12x100mm front and 12x142mm rear hub holes for your thru-axles. And like more new disc brake wheelsets, the ENVE 45 rims are hookless. I included a link to compatible tires in the section above.
The rims themselves measured 21.1mm inside width, 28.0 outside and 45.2mm deep on the wheels I bought to test for this review. With the ENVE alloy shell hubset and a Shimano 11 speed or HG freehub, my wheelset weighed 1557 grams. That’s right on ENVE’s claimed 1561 grams. They quote a 20g lighter total weight with a SRAM XD freehub. It is also offered with an Industry Nine 1/1 hubset.
Each wheel is laced with 24 bladed, j-bend Sapim CX Sprint spokes that are secured to the rim using internal nipples.
ENVE sends valve stems, nuts, and ample rim tape for you to install yourself. Lockrings are not included
Quality: These and all ENVE wheels come with a 5-year material and workmanship warranty, a 2-year paint warranty, and lifetime incident protection warranty for the carbon covering damage covered during riding, crashing, or driving your roof-mounted bike into the garage.
I will note that, in my experience, ENVE rims aren’t as polished and uniformly shiny as those you’ll find from other brands. Some I’ve reviewed come through with thin, off-white residue lines along small sections of the spoke edge of the rims. I don’t find it an issue but if you a cyclist that washes and polished your frame every 3 or 4 rides, you may.
Price: The ENVE 45 wheelset is hard to find online these days. Look for them at some of ENVE’s largest online dealers that are also stores I recommend because of their competitive prices, product selection, customer satisfaction, and reader support. They are most likely to have or get stock first in their region until sold out and restocked again.
Check these links to the ENVE 45 wheelset page at Competitive Cyclist and Sigma Sports.
Reynolds AR41 – A disappointing successor to the well-liked Assault
Performance: As the successor to the similarly priced Assault I recommended for years as a best value, I expected the AR41 performance to get better by taking advantage of the many carbon wheelset advances in the industry during the Assault’s long run. Instead, the AR41 is a disappointment.
While the AR41 is a stiff wheelset, seemingly stiffer than the Assault, both Nate and I found it lacked the lively responsiveness that set the Assault apart from other value-carbon wheelsets. The hub engages quickly but you don’t get that same snap, or any snap at all actually, that you got from the Assault when accelerating.
The braking is also poor both on dry and wet roads using the recommended blue pads that come with the wheels. Nate and I also tried a set of Black Prince pads with no better results. The AR41 squeals after braking for a while on dry roads and is a bit scary braking on wet ones. The rims are stiff enough to allow you to set the pads close for better modulation but you have to squeeze your levers so much more on these wheels than most others to build up the braking force needed to slow them that modulation really isn’t a consideration.
The AR41 braking is clearly a step down from the Assault’s performance which was average compared to other carbon wheelsets designed mid-decade. The braking performance gap is even larger between the AR41 and what we’ve become used to from textured and treated brake tracks on today’s more expensive, performance-carbon wheelsets, less expensive alloy upgrade ones and certainly the disc brake experience.
At 19mm internal and 27.5mm external, the AR41 rims are 2mm or so wider than Assault but aren’t any more comfortable. They aren’t harsh but they also aren’t comfy on long rides even if you run them tubeless and at reasonably low pressures in the 60-75psi range that Nate and I experimented with.
AR41 handling is slightly improved over the Assault. You get a confident, planted feeling likely due to the stiffer, wider platform. It isn’t on par, however, with the better, more expensive, performance-carbon all-around wheelsets. The AR41 also doesn’t get pushed around as much in the crosswinds as the Assault did but again, not as good on this dimension as the better, performance-carbon wheels.
There doesn’t seem to be any “free speed” coming from the AR41’s hub or rim profile to help you maintain your momentum going downhill or riding the flats at 20mph+. The freehub is also a little loud, something I don’t prefer but that some people like.
Design: I measured the AR41 at 1521 grams and 40.5mm deep. The rim is tubeless-ready, has a U-shaped profile and measured 19.0mm wide between the bead hooks (“internal” width) and 27.5mm at the brake track (external).
The Reynolds brand hubset has a 10-degree engagement rear freehub. The Sapim Sprint spokes are rounded and attach to brass nipples.
The AR 41x and other ARx series wheels sell for $250 more ($1700) and use the same rims, a lighter hubset with the same engagement, and bladed Sapim CX-Sprint spokes. The AR41x’s 1480g claimed weight is 65 grams less than the claimed weight of the AR41 tested here.
Quality: Reynolds has one of the best set of policies in the wheelset business. Despite what I wrote about their performance, would you like to test out the AR41 wheelset yourself before committing to them? If you live in the US or Canada, you’ve got 30 days to return them for a full refund and they’ll even pay for shipping if you decide it’s not for you.
While a 2-year warranty is standard for most companies, Reynolds gives the original owner a lifetime warranty, promising to replace or repair the wheelsets if any material or workmanship issues arise. The crash protection policy also lasts for the life of the wheelset. Regardless of how they were damaged, Reynolds will provide you a 50% discount on new wheels. You can also purchase an upgrade to assure your wheelset will be replaced at no cost no matter how it gets damaged.
We evaluated these wheels shortly before Reynolds was sold. All the policies mentioned above remain in place. Reynolds’ telephone tech support line, however, is no longer operating.
Price: Retailing for $1450, you can click on this link to top-ranked store Competitive Cyclist or this link to Know’s Shop to find and order the AR41 rim and disc brake wheelsets at the best prices from the best stores.
Bontrager Aeolus Pro 51 TLR – Quiet comfort amidst lackluster responsiveness
Performance: I had high hopes going into our testing of the USD$1500, £1250, €1400 Bontrager Aeolus Pro 51 TLR wheelset. We rated its shorter and similarly priced sibling, the Aeolus Pro 37 reviewed above a Best Value for its capable range of performance. And our review of the Aeolus Pro 51’s more expensive twin, the Aeolus RSL 51 that shares the same rim profile carried the headline: The Definition of an All-Around Road Disc Wheelset.
I and probably many of you keep on the lookout for that value-priced wheelset that rides nearly as well as one that costs twice as much. Using a set of performance criteria (not specs) to evaluate wheels, my fellow testers and I have ridden over a dozen value-carbon road bike wheels (and another half dozen gravel ones) over the last few years in search of one that would save you a bucket full of money without giving up more than a shot glass worth of performance.
Unfortunately, the Bontrager Aeolus Pro 51 isn’t it.
Like all but a few wheelsets in this price range, the Pro 51 performs adequately in some areas and less so in others. From the rides that fellow tester Nate and I did, however, the Pro 51 doesn’t match or approach the overall performance we enjoyed of its RSL 51 sibling or the balance of good performance across areas like its shorter Pro 37 kin does.
Comfort is the Aeolus Pro 51’s biggest strength. Its wide rim profile allows you to run 28mm tires without sacrificing aero performance while keeping the pressure low enough to soak up the bumps on paved, poorly paved, or unpaved roads quite nicely.
True, the right tire and pressure are a big part of enjoying a comfortable ride these days. But I’ve ridden enough wheelsets, especially in this value-carbon price range where the rim/spoke/hub component choices, lacing, or assembly didn’t enable enough vertical compliance in the wheels for a comfortable ride regardless of the tires and range of pressures I tried.
The Pro 51 felt planted in corners though accelerating out of them was underwhelming. They’re stiff enough to confidently get you through but not responsive enough to get you flying out.
That lack of responsiveness also showed up during acceleration efforts. They were not at all lively. It took a lot of effort to get them up to speed.
Once up to speed, it took more effort to keep them there compared to similar depth wheels at this price point and more expensive ones. That was disappointing since the Pro 51 uses the same rim shape as the RSL 51.
While aero performance, which we judge based on our ability to maintain momentum in the 20-25mph/32-40kph range for the RSL 51 was good but not exceptional compared to top-performing all-arounds, the Pro 51 isn’t on par with the RSL 51.
The common rim profile gene did show up in the Pro 51’s good stability in side winds. That’s a welcome benefit if you ride where it is regularly windy.
Climbing with the Pro 51 was a drag, figuratively and literally. Even riding a course with rolling hills took more effort than a wheelset this depth should. 7% grade climbs put me in the hurt locker the way 10%+ ones normally do.
All of this made me feel like I had “dead legs” when riding the Pro 51. I do get those days regardless of the wheelset and certainly feel that way when trying to climb or ride aggressively on most 60mm deep wheels rather than the straight flats they are designed for. But, I should feel better than that on a good set of all-around wheels of the Pro 51’s depth and profile.
Nate put a finer point on it, saying the Pro 51 wheelset’s responsiveness was “dull.”
Design: The Aeolus Pro 51 measured 1625 gram weight likely contributes to its relative lack of responsiveness, acceleration, and climbing ability. That measurement is with about 15 grams of tubeless rim tape and no valve stems. If you instead install the 60-gram per wheel plastic tubeless strips that Bontrager includes in the box, well we’re getting into stock wheel weight territory.
Even with the TLR rim tape, the Pro 51 is almost 200 grams more than the RSL 51 (1441 grams measured) and even 50-100 grams more than my top-rated aero wheels that are 10mm deeper and, well, more aero.
I don’t know how much of that extra weight is in the rims where it matters most vs. in the hubset. Bontrager uses the DT Swiss 350 hubs in their Pro line of wheels which, while heavier than the DT Swiss 240 EXP, are infinitely quieter. Quieter as in absolutely silent.
While there may be a performance difference between the 240 and 350, I can’t feel it on the road. But I sure do notice the solitude of a quiet freehub.
As mentioned, the Pro 51 rims are wide measuring 23.2mm inside and 30.9mm outside with an actual depth of 51.5mm.
Quality: As with all Bontrager carbon wheels, their crash replacement policy and warranty programs are very strong. They will replace or repair your wheelset for free within 2 years of when you bought it no matter how it gets damaged and provide a 50% discount to repair or replace them for as long as you own them after that.
They also offer a lifetime materials and workmanship warranty. You can return them if unused within 30 days for a full refund.
Generally, I’ve found Bontrager wheels to be well built and long-lasting. The DT Swiss hubs are proven.
If you want to use these tubeless, I recommend you tape the rims rather than use the plastic strips that come with the wheels. While you need to buy Bontrager’s $25 TLR Rim Tape separately from their site, it’s both lighter and the best tubeless rim tape I’ve used to date. Beyond their excessive weight, the plastic strips are a PITA to install and center and I’ve had them crack on me when installing some before.
Hopefully, Bontrager will start including rim tape in the box at some point. They do include easy-to-install cloth rim straps if you plan to use clincher tires or tubes instead of sealant in your tubeless tires.
Price: You can use these links to order the Bontrager Aeolus Pro 51 TLR wheels direct for USD$1500, £1250, €1400 from Bontrager or at Sigma Sports.
2. Regionals
Regionals use a similar selling approach as the Integrateds mostly using online stores and local bike shop dealers but also through sales from their web store. They sell a far smaller range and number of products than the Integrateds with wheelsets being their primary focus. Most also sell performance-carbon wheels as well as wheelsets for mountain biking, cross, and gravel segments.
These companies design their rims and some of the hubs used in their wheelsets. They own their rim molds but mostly have others do the production of their wheelsets.
As the name suggests, Regionals sell through dealers to cyclists in a specific geographic region. The value-carbon wheels I’ve evaluated in the past for this review have been replaced by newer models. I’ll work on getting some of those in for testing and add them to this section.
3. Branders
Branders create equity or value by building their businesses around a name that customers come to recognize and equate to offering unique attributes and benefits to them. The value of these brands in the minds of cyclists allows the companies to successfully sell their products directly rather than needing the value a distributor and dealer network can bring promoting the company’s wheelsets through their own brand, sales, and marketing efforts.
The wheelset Branders I’ve found didn’t start with rim or hub expertise to design or engineer their own wheels. While some claim to have built that expertise, they still depend largely on their ability to source the design and manufacturing of their wheelsets and market their wheels to fill the needs they originally saw in the market and have built their brand around.
For most of the Branders of value-carbon wheelsets, an element of their brand has been built around the need in the market for lower-priced wheelsets, carbon or alloy. Beyond that, they have differentiated themselves from other branders by, for example, the suitability of their wheelsets to the road and weather conditions where they are based or their purported technical insights and event focus or the wide range of wheelsets and other components they sell.
FLO, Hunt, Scribe and many other Branders use a pre-order model. They batch orders from their suppliers and receive shipments about once a month. Unless they have stock of the wheelset you want leftover from their last shipment, you reserve your wheelset with an advance deposit or full payment and then have it shipped to you when the new batch arrives. Depending on demand and timing, that means you could get your wheelset shipped immediately or wait a month or two from when you order to when you are riding it.
Scribe Aero Wide+ 50-D – Loud, aero, and unexpected
Performance: If you really don’t like the sound of a really loud freehub when coasting, the Scribe Aero Wide+ 50-D wheelset really isn’t for you.
I’m not talking about what you hear coming out of the latest generation DT Swiss 240 freehub or the louder yet distinctive chordal sound of a Chris King R45 freehub. No, the Scribe freehub is a far louder, lower pitch noise that almost sounds angry.
Other riders told me not to coast near them, based on their hand motions because I couldn’t hear them, at least until I started pedaling again. My fellow tester Miles heard the comments too from those in his group when free coasting down fast downhill.
And yes, I tried to quiet the hub using the grease and video instructions Scribe sent me for that purpose. I noticed little difference.
I go into this first and in some detail because it’s the most distinctive characteristic of this wheelset.
If none of that bothers you, or you prefer loud freehubs as I know some do, the Scribe Aero Wide+ 50-D is a great value-priced, carbon wheelset option for fast riding and racing on flat and modestly rolling terrain.
Miles and I found these Scribe wheels hold their momentum well at speed on straight sections. They are also plenty stiff enough to give you the confidence to lean into a corner, ride through it, and power out at high speeds.
If you’ve got the watts of a racer like Miles, these Scribes are responsive and fast enough to cover most any accelerations. For me, more of a B group rider without the turbo boost power of a racer like Miles, their response felt more like a slower reacting, more typical aero wheelset.
When the road pitches up, both of us found the wheels struggled, as do many aero wheelsets. Rolling courses with long yet modest hills make you work hard on the Scribe Aero. Short kickers of 7-10% really slow you down.
For me, the aero wheelset analogy extends to my need to also lean these Scribes into steady sidewinds to stay on my line. When I got hit by gusts, I couldn’t hold it.
Miles had a better experience, finding the sidewinds didn’t affect him much, and performed better than others he’s tested. While we weigh more or less the same, the winds were highly variable during our spring testing perhaps leading to our different reactions.
With a good set of supple, tubeless tires inflated lower than you might normally set them, the Scribes can be quite a comfortable wheelset on good roads and bad. We tested them with both 28mm Schwalbe Pro One TLE and 28mm Continental Grand Prix 5000 S TR tires at pressures ranging from 55psi/3.8bar to 65psi/4.5bar for our 148lb/67kg to 155lb/70kg body weight.
The Contis at the lowest inflation pressure was the most comfortable combination.
Design: I measure and weigh wheels when they first arrive, share none of that info with my fellow testers, and forget most of it myself with all the gear traffic coming through my door. That usually turns out for the best as not knowing the specs limits the performance bias we might bring into our test riding.
That certainly made sense for this wheelset. The specs and most of the “Aero Wide+ 50-D” name suggest very little about how we found that these wheels perform.
At 1529 grams measured with pre-installed tape but without the valves (vs. the claimed 1448 grams) and 50.5 mm depth, they spec out more like an all-around wheelset than an aero one.
Measuring 29.6mm externally near the tire edge of the rim, 30.2mm at their widest point, and 21.1mm internally, these wheels are wider than some but not nearly as wide as many that provide the kind of handling and comfort these Scribes can.
So the Wide+ and 50 in their name might suggest a different type of performer than what we found. If they drop those parts of the name and simply call it the Scribe Aero D, they’d have a name that better describes this wheelset’s performance. (This probably wouldn’t work with the rest of their product names, however, as all of their carbon disc brake wheels are called Aero Wide+ followed by the rim depth number ranging from 32mm to 80mm).
And despite all the attention the loud freehub with its glossy hub shell and white script Scribe logo calls to this wheelset, the matt grey finish on the rims we tested is quite a modest look. Miles calls them “boring.” They look ok to my style-blind eyes but certainly are at odds with the boisterous, flashy hubs.
While I’m really out of my depth trying to psychoanalyze a set of wheels, the unexpected nature of the Scribe’s performance compared to its specs and its aural and visual aesthetics seem to make it, behaviourally if not technically, an eccentric wheelset. The freehub almost calls out at you, saying “look at me.” When you do, the rim finish seems to respond with “there’s nothing to see here.”
Setting aside my psychobabble (or should I say cyclobabble?), this Scribe is another example of why I focus on performance and not specs in our reviews.
Quality: Scribe’s warranty policies are better than many that sell wheels at similar price points especially those sold direct by overseas manufacturers.
Specifically, they offer a 3-year warranty against material or workmanship defects and a 50% crash replacement discount for the life of the wheels. Should you need or want them, they will also send you a set of replacement bearings in years 2 and 3 of your warranty free of charge. All of these apply to the original owner.
Miles and I didn’t experience any quality issues during our several-month test period. I did open up the freehub to grease it and to my untrained eyes, it seemed to be well-built. Scribe includes valves and lockrings along with spare spokes, nipples, and other parts to adapt the wheels to older disc brake rotor technologies.
Price: Available direct from Scribe, the Aero Wide+ 50-D wheelset sells for US$1100, £870, €1000. While shipping is free, Scribe notes the price “may be subject to additional customs charges” and indeed mine were though Scribe told me that it doesn’t happen often.
FLO 60 – Pay no attention to the name; it may fool you (replaced by the 64 AS)
Performance: FLO wraps its brand around speed and, based on their marketing appears to target the triathlete as one of if not their primary customer segment. With that in mind, testing this 63.0 mm deep carbon value rim brake wheelset (thanks Mark L!) seemed to be a good way to see how well FLO’s product performance lived up to the brand image it tries to create and how it compares against equally deep performance-carbon wheelsets that we reviewed here.
Bottom line, the results of the test riding Nate and I did were not what I would have expected.
The FLO 60 is clearly a stiff wheelset. Nate called it the stiffest wheelset he has ever ridden, stiffer than performance-carbon aero wheels like the Bontrager XXX 6 and ENVE 5.6. We also found that it was very responsive, essentially on par with the ENVE 5.6. This was surprising for a wheelset of this depth and 1728 gram measured weight, but perhaps not when you consider how stiff it is. That stiffness translates your power very efficiently on a climb.
But wait! Isn’t this an aero, triathlon/TT wheelset or at least front wheel for a 60/90 wheelset combination? Accelerating and climbing aren’t what you do much of when you race those events.
Yes, you could also use the wheels for crits where you accelerate often so we’ll take that performance benefit. And there are plenty of time trials that include rollers so this wheelset’s climbing performance is another nice-to-have.
But how good are the FLO 60’s aerodynamics and its crosswind management? These are perhaps the two most important performance benefits triathletes and other speedy flatlanders want in their wheels.
Uh, not so good. Nate summarized it well when he said the FLO 60s didn’t perform consistent with their rim depth. “I didn’t feel the same exhilaration of flat-ground, momentum-sustaining performance as I did with the ENVE 5.6 or Bontrager XXX 6 or Zipp 404 NSW or even the [45mm deep] 303 NSWs.”
I too was non-plussed by their ability to hold speed. They seemed no better than the 45mm-50mm depth wheels I’d tested for this review and our performance-carbon all-around rim brake and disc brake wheel reviews.
They also didn’t manage the crosswinds nearly as well as modern performance-carbon rims of similar depth. Nate found the crosswinds noticeable but not problematic while riding the FLO 60. I found they didn’t respond in any consistent way and took some real mental energy to keep adjusting the front wheel to my chosen line.
Neither of us found the wheels very compliant. Nate called them “harsh”. My descriptor was “horrible.” Yes, we both prefer to ride our wheels tubeless and at lower pressures and the FLO 60 are only made for tubed tire clincher tires. The rims are certainly wide enough (18mm internal, 26mm external) to be comfortable on 25C tires.
Perhaps the hubs were part of the compliance underperformance. The hub-spoke-rim component system needs to work right in combination to get a wheelset that is both laterally stiff and vertically compliant. A lot of wheelsets have a hard time getting that combination right.
The hubs performed more like those on stock wheels and certainly not at the DT Swiss 240 level of many of the other value-carbon wheels in this comparative review. They didn’t roll as smoothly and the rear didn’t seem to have as many points of engagement.
Handling, likely because of the poor compliance and in spite of the great stiffness, was average at best. I didn’t feel terribly planted when cranking through a turn and coasting through one was not terribly stable.
The braking of these rim brake wheels was decent though not refined and typical of better earlier generation carbon braking performance. Plenty of braking force, minimal noise, and no squealing but not much modulation to be had. On or off.
If you do shorter TTs or races on hilly courses with good pavement, the FLO 60 would be a low-cost option to consider. Beyond that, you’ve got better choices available to you.
Design: Measured weight 1728g. Rim depth 63.0mm. Internal width 18.2mm. External width 26.0mm at the brake track and 26.6mm maximum. Essentially a V-shaped rim profile. Bladed Sapim CX-Ray spokes and a FLO VORTEX 2 hubset with EZO stainless bearings.
Quality: FLO provides standard 2-year materials and workmanship warranty. You can return unused wheels within 30 days if you decide not to keep them but you’ll pay for shipping and a 10% restocking fee to do so. There is no crash replacement policy.
Price: FLO has replaced this wheelset with their 64 AS. You can see this new $1488 model at FLO Cycling.
Hunt 50 Carbon Aero Disc – Buzz Overwhelms Performance
Performance: Hunt generates a great deal of buzz for its products and brand, seemingly as much as or more than some wheelset sellers many times Hunt’s size and experience. I bought these wheels looking to experience how they actually performed, separate from the buzz.
It turns out that you can’t separate the buzz from the performance. Unfortunately, it’s the freehub buzz rather than the marketing buzz that is inseparable from these wheels.
Simply stated, the freehub sound on the Hunt 50 Carbon Aero Disc is one of the loudest fellow tester Miles and I have ever heard from wheels we’ve tested or ridden alongside. Far louder than a Chris King or i9 that are known for their distinct and loud freehubs but nowhere near the refined fuller frequency sound from the multiple points of engagement those hubs offer.
The freehub is so loud that you can’t have a conversation with a friend while coasting on these wheels. I tried it. Could hardly hear a thing he (or I) was saying.
Miles, a fan of distinct sounding freehubs, wrote in his test report: “It was not quite a chainsaw, but it was close.” With tongue firmly planted in cheek, he added: “It was cool and will turn some heads, but I could have used a slightly quieter freewheel sound.”
My more practical concerns – 1) being able to communicate with fellow riders in a paceline and 2) wrecking the peace I so enjoy (and deserve) going downhill after a hard climb.
Aside from the freehub, the Hunt 50 Carbon Aero Disc performance is a prime example of what separates most value-carbon wheelsets from higher-priced performance-carbon ones.
Unfortunately, it’s not just the price. Rather, this wheelset lacks the comfort, stiffness, climbing, and handling qualities of performance-carbon wheels. It also underperforms other value-carbon wheels that have a strength in one or two areas that might align well with what you are looking for and cause you to overlook other weaknesses because you’re getting the wheels at a lower price.
Though it was not outstanding, the 50 Carbon Aero Disc wheelset’s aero performance was probably its strongest characteristic. They feel more like a 40mm deep wheelset with some sense that your momentum is being sustained but not to the level of a similar depth value-carbon wheelset like Bontrager Aeolus Pro 51 TLR Disc
You also feel a little bit of push from crosswinds, though nothing to move you dramatically off your line.
For those of you that enjoy sprinting hard out of the saddle, Miles found these Hunt’s responded well and shot forward with purpose. Going uphill, however, they felt quite average to both of us and offered no help from their lateral stiffness or aerodynamics.
Design: The Hunt 50 Carbon Aero Disc rims measured 50.1 mm deep with 19.5mm internal and 26.5 mm external widths. The internal width I measured was considerably less than the 21.3mm width Hunt currently lists for these rims on their site. The external widths were the same as what is listed. It’s possible that Hunt changed the source or design (or both) of these wheels in the five months’ time between when I ordered and reviewed them.
The rims have more of a V than U-shaped profile. My benchmark Zipp Tangente Speed RT25 tubeless tires set up about 0.5mm narrower than the rims at 80psi. The tires went on the rims easily using the rim bed’s deep center channel though I needed to use my compressor to inflate them.
Hunt uses bladed and butted Pillar spokes on these wheels, 20 in the front and 24 in the back. The hubs are Hunt branded Race Season Disc straight-pull with 7.5 degrees of engagement. Novatec has made hubs for Hunt in the past but I was unable to determine whether they make the ones on this wheelset.
With rim strips but no valves, the wheels weighed 1579 grams on my scale or about 90 grams more than the 1487 gram weight Hunt claims for this wheelset.
Quality: The wheels themselves appeared well made and had a very even matt black finish. They came with extra spokes and other spares in case you ever need to replace them.
The quality of Hunt’s service, while very polite and well-intentioned, gave me every indication that the company lacks established processes and financial controls in important customer service areas.
The set I ordered came damaged with the freehub having come through the box. It happens and was likely caused by the shipper or a customs handler rather than Hunt. The replacement set was shipped from the next monthly allotment unscathed and well packaged. Hunt initially charged my account to ship the damaged wheels back but refunded me after several requests.
Because I didn’t care for the wheelset’s performance, I decided to return them under Hunt’s 60-day tryout policy. It took me over 20 emails and several more exchanges with their online chat over a month’s time to get the wheels back and refunded.
Getting Hunt to respond to the return request, securing the shipping labels, scheduling the shipper, acknowledging the return, and then processing the refund each took at least 3 e-mail requests from my end for each of these steps. (The refund process took many more than 3.)
There were 6 or 7 Hunt advisors that responded over that time with, at times, incomplete, incorrect, or contrary information, occasionally with multiple responses from different advisors and email domains to the same email from me.
Price: When I bought these wheels, they sold for USD$1079. At last check, they sell for USD$899, £790 including shipping. They are available directly from Hunt’s online store.
4. Manufacturers
Manufacturers are in business to fabricate and sell carbon products including rims, wheelsets, bike frames, and other cycling components. They sell wheelsets under their own brand names and also make them to order for lesser-known brands and wheel builders. Manufacturers are based in China and are not to be confused with the Taiwanese-based carbon frame and component OEMs that make almost exclusively for major bike brands.
Manufacturers sell wheelsets to individual cyclists direct from their company websites or through Amazon or eBay stores. Most give you the feel of being high-volume custom wheel builders by giving you the choice of a couple dozen or more of their carbon rims combined with a range of brand name hub and spoke options. While they ship hundreds and some over a thousand wheelsets a month, depending on what wheelset you want built, it takes them several weeks from order to receipt of your wheelset.
I don’t know whether any of the Manufacturers I identified have particular wheelset design skills or how much CFD (computational fluid dynamics), wind tunnel or in-the-field prototype testing, or other engineering they do. They don’t make claims about any of this.
Carbon manufacturing and wheelset assembly appear to be their primary focus and competence. Reverse engineering is a skill many manufacturers of all sorts of cycling and other industry products often have and that some of these Manufacturers may also possess.
Yoeleo SAT C50|50 DB PRO Clincher/Tubeless – Laterally compliant, vertically stiff
Performance: While most roadies like a laterally stiff wheelset that transfers power efficiently to the road that is also vertically compliant to help cushion imperfectly paved paths, I found the Yoeleo SAT C50|50 DB PRO underperformed the better value-carbon wheelsets on both measures.
As a lighter and therefore less powerful rider, I’ll typically have to work hard climbing and sprinting to notice stiffness differences. With this Yoeleo wheelset, I noticed it right away. Compared to a stiff wheelset like the value-carbon Bontrager Aeolus Pro 51 TLR, the SAT C50 felt imprecise pedaling up the first modest hill I hit within a mile of my house.
When I increased the tire pressure 10 psi, they rode a bit stiffer though they still weren’t stiff. And lowering the pressure the same amount didn’t really improve the comfort.
The handling did improve at higher pressure.
After many rides at different pressures and considering the tradeoffs, I ended up riding them about 5 psi higher than I normally ride. This seemed to get me the best performance balance between stiffness, comfort, and handling for these wheels. Unfortunately, the Yoeleos still underperformed on all three of these criteria.
Strangely, however, the balanced underperformance seemed easier to get used to over time than wheelsets that were good performers on one of these criteria, say stiffness, and subpar performers in others, for example, comfort.
While 50mm deep and with a good DT Swiss 240 hubset, the SAT C50 didn’t feel particularly fast or helpful in maintaining aero speeds. While weighing only 1459 grams, quite light for any road disc wheelset of this depth, they didn’t climb or accelerate markedly better than far heavier, stiffer wheels like the Bontrager.
Design: The Yoeleo SAT 50|50 DB PRO would seem to have all the specs to make it one of the better performing wheelset. My conclusion that it is a below-par performer further proves that you can’t go on specs in predicting how well a wheelset will ride out on the road.
My 50.2mm deep test wheels weighed 1459 grams which compares favorably to the claimed weight of 1518g. Unlike many lower-priced carbon wheels that use Toray T700 standard modulus fiber, Yoeleo uses the higher modulus, higher tensile strength Toray T800 intermediate modulus carbon fiber for these wheels. With all else being equal (rim wall thickness, spoke bracing angles, hub flange diameter, etc.), this should give the wheels a higher strength to weight ratio and make them stiffer than what I experienced. Clearly, something wasn’t equal.
The rims have a classic toroid profile even more pronounced than the original Zipp 303 that was one of the originators of this shape. These Yoeleo wheels measure 26.0mm wide at the brake track and 27.7 mm at their widest point. The internal rim width between the bead hooks is a healthy 18.5mm, a bit narrower than the 19 and 21mm width you find in today’s widest rim and disc brake road wheelsets, respectively.
As with all the value-carbon wheelsets I could specify for this review, this SAT C50 had DT Swiss 240S hubs with Sapim CX-Ray straight-pull spokes.
Quality: Similar to most Manufacturers, Yoeleo’s quality policies are relatively limited. They do offer a 3-year warranty but only cover the shipping costs for the first 3 months should there be a problem. And remember, you’d need to ship the wheelset to China.
If you decide you don’t want the wheels after they first arrive, you have just 3 days to inform Yoeleo that you want to return them and here again, you pay for shipping. They offer no crash replacement policy.
My test wheels arrived true and looked well built. While I rode them less than 1,000 miles, I encountered no quality issues with them during that time.
Price: At the time I ordered these wheels (before the US tariffs on Chinese imports were put in place), they priced out at as specified at $1225. You buy them directly from Yoeleo.
Light Bicycle WR46C02
Performance: While the performance of these all-around disc brake wheels is a long way from $2000 and up models, the Light Bicycle WR46C02 wheelset with DT Swiss 240 hubs offer the most balanced performance of any in the sub $1500 value-carbon wheelset category.
That’s a qualified statement so let me break the performance down to its components and comparisons.
First, it’s not on par with stiffness, comfort, responsiveness, handling, and other key performance criteria of the better all-around carbon rim brake or all-around carbon disc brake wheelsets I’ve reviewed that will cost you $2000 or more. None of the wheelsets in this category are.
Yet, while some of the wheels in this category offer performance strengths (e.g. stiffness) relative to other value-carbon wheelsets only to be offset by comparable weaknesses (e.g. crosswind management), these Light Bicycle wheels impressed me and fellow tester Miles for doing most everything on our performance lists decently.
While not as stiff as say, the Bontrager Aeolus Pro 51 TLR Disc wheelset or as aero as the ENVE 45, these WR46C02 wheels are both adequately stiff and do help hold your momentum somewhat. Though not climbing wheels, they also go uphill reasonably well and certainly better than some of the heavyset hoops in this review.
While I haven’t found any of these value-carbon wheelsets to be in the same comfort ballpark as the performance-carbon ones, they were comfortable enough to run tubeless at the low end of my air pressure range to not wear me out when I did a 4-hour ride on them.
The handling was decent, the DT Swiss 240 hubs I speced the wheels with are relatively quiet and roll smoothly, and the rims managed the crosswinds predictably despite being an older V-shaped profile. Set up with my benchmark 25C Zipp Tangente Speed RT25 tires, they measured a mm narrower than the outside rim width which is good for aero performance.
In a flat out sprint, while not floppy, they did not feel super fast in a straight line. Instead, they seemed rather average among similarly priced wheels. While they are also made in a rim version, we weren’t able to test their braking performance since we rode the disc brake model.
It’s also worth noting that their subtle finish is attractive and the tires went on easily, sealed with only a track pump, and held air and sealant well.
Design: This wheelset tested weighed in at 1504 grams without rim strips or valve stems. Light Bicycle claims the rims weigh 435 grams though I was unable to verify that. They measured 21.3mm internal width and 28.3mm external. The rim has a classic V-shape profile and uses 28 CX-Ray J-bend spokes in the rear wheel, 24 in the front, both connected to external alloy nipples and the DT Swiss 240 hubs. You can have the wheels built with a list of more or less expensive hubs if you prefer.
Quality: The wheels looked well built and stayed true during our testing. While Light Bicycle states a 3-year warranty, the conditions of that warranty make it quite limited compared to others and don’t add up to the 3-years stated.
Light Bicycle gives you only 30 days from purchase to replace defective rims during which they pay the shipping costs. If the rim defect occurs after the first 30 days and up to 15 months, they’ll replace the rims but you have to pay for the shipping to/from their North American assembly center in Canada if you bought from there or from their Global center in China if you live outside of North America. Nothing is stated about what happens after 15 months.
If you have issues with the hubs or spokes, you need to go to the manufacturers of those parts to deal with those issues. Hub warranty terms are usually a year. There are no warranties on spokes.
Light Bicycle doesn’t warranty the workmanship surrounding the assembly of the wheels’ components. When I asked about that, they offered to write a one-year warranty on the invoice but claimed they have never had the need to provide this type of warranty.
Frankly, this warranty would make me uncomfortable buying wheels from Light Bicycle.
Light Bicycle will take care of wheels damaged in shipment as long as you refuse the shipment or make them aware of a shipment damage issue for ones that are dropped off within 10 days.
You’ve got 30 days to return unused, stock wheelsets for a refund. Non-stock orders can only be returned if there is an error made by Light Bicycle. There is a 10-25% discount on new wheels if you crash yours within an unspecified period.
Price: As specified, the WR46C02 wheelset runs $1267 if bought from their North American assembly center and $966 if purchased from their China location, not including shipping. If you live in North America, duties and taxes are already built into the price. If you don’t, those fees along with added shipping charges are added to the price. It will also take you longer to get them and cost you more should you need to return them under warranty. You can purchase them directly on the Light Bicycle website.
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Hi Steve,
I just wanted to make you aware that Flo wheels are tubeless compatible. I run all my Flo wheels tubeless (I wouldn’t ride a wheel I couldn’t).
Cheers.
Hi, have you come across WheelScience carbon wheel Elementary? Any comment on these made model?
Thank-you
The Real Person!
Vincent, I did consider it but decided not to test. Older design (2014), not TLR and not very wide at the brake track where tire and rim meet. Australia direct sales, which may be good for some but not most readers. Pricey (USD$1500) at the time. Steve
Hi Steve, I am new to your site. I must say I love the detail and thoughtfulness you put into your content. I am a 66 year old rider. When I was thirty, I was racing criteriums on weekends and doing about 50 km per day combined training and commuting during the week. I loved my 1981 all Record Guerciotti. Over the years I gradually tapered off to nothing. Last year I bought a Giant TCR and my obsession with the bike has returned with a vengeance. The bike has “stock” PR2 alloy wheels – which I have read are “sluggish” although the bike feels great compared to what it replaced. I have been thinking about upgrading to carbon wheels and been eyeing the Yoleo CB 50. But NOT the “Pro” model. Just the “STD” I have seen ONLY good Yoleo reviews until I read you review of the “Pro” model. Here’s the thing: I know I don’t “need” carbon wheels. I have no aspirations for racing any more. But I love the feel of good, lightweight technology underneath me. I know what it feels like. I am now on the fence. I don’t want to spend substantially more than the Yoleos cost, but I’ve got to stop this obsession somehow. Either get the wheels or shut up and pedal the bike as it is. Toronto is almost always moderately windy and is what I would call relentlessly rolling. Thoughts?
The Real Person!
Stuart, Welcome back to cycling and to the site. The challenge with most of the value-priced carbon wheels I reviewed here is that they don’t perform very well against some of the criteria I use to evaluate wheels and several don’t perform well against most of the criteria. It’s a tough thing to invest in development, testing, and quality for carbon wheels sold at these prices. If you don’t need carbon wheels, ride in the wind and want to keep price down (and your obsession in check), I’d suggest a better set of alloy wheels like one of those I’ve reviewed here for rim brake bikes or here for disc brake ones. Cheers, Steve
Thanks ever so much Steve. I will look at the link… Cheers
Stuart,
This year I purchased a TCR Advanced Pro Disc. It is fabulous. It comes with Giant’s SLR-1 Disc WheelSystem. They are good. If you don’t have disc wheels, I would not discount Giant’s carbon wheels. I’ve read good reviews.
Thanks Mal, my Giant brother. I balked at getting the Advanced Pro because hesitated to spend the $$$ when I hadn’t pedaled in so long (if only I could have seen a few months into the future). So I sprung for “just” the Advanced Disc. But I still love it! I will check out the cost of the SLR 1 discs. Cheers.
You have a fine bike in the “just” Advanced disc. I have the Ultegra Di2, and while it’s cool, I like having the disc brakes more. Look on the Giant site. They have a nice set of SLR 1 42mm carbon wheels. These came on my bike. At 1580 grams, they are a full pound lighter than the PR 2’s on your bike, and they are only $1,470 for the pair. A friendly dealer will probably discount them. Good luck.
Steve,
I’ve been reading your blog/site a lot lately. I’ve been mostly an old curmudgeon riding old steel and alloy bikes 8-10 speed and recently entered the modern carbon bike era (rode some older carbon Kestrel and Treks back in the day). The difference between those older carbon bikes and my S-Works is night and day. I am working on upgrading the Specialized with carbon wheels. Currently, running Fulcrum 3’s on that bike. I’ve always ridden alloy wheels and had a couple of questions.
Was wondering what you thought about the reliability of used high end carbon wheel sets? My local shop has a couple of Zipp 303 Firecrest and Enve 3.4 wheelset for sale. They both look like they’re in good shape and the owners maybe used them for a couple of seasons. They’re in my budget but am cautious about using carbon that I do not know.
Second, the Zipp and Enve wheels are about the same price. Zipps have Chris King hubs Enve DT Swiss. I think the Zipps are not tubeless ready. I am good with using tubes and am curious about tubeless. More leaning on to the wheels with the CK’s since I can always rebuild them but keep on thinking that I should buy a wheelset that is tubeless ready, what are your thoughts?
Finally, I saw your review on the Mavic Cosmic Carbon Pro’s SL UST. I am also considering getting a set of new Ksyrium Pro Carbon UST wheelset, they get good reviews online. Would you consider these over the used wheels above?
Sorry for the long question. Any advice would be much appreciated! Thanks!
The Real Person!
Danny, I’d steer clear of carbon wheelsets with a couple of seasons in them. Brake tracks wear down over time even on good wheels like the ones you mentioned. As you read, I’m also not a huge fan of the Mavic Cosmic Pro Carbon SL UST for the reasons I outlined in that post. The Ksyrium is the same technology, only shallower. I don’t have any details as of yet but my understanding is that Mavic will be introducing a new carbon wheelset line before long.
I’d suggest you look at my Best Carbon Road Bike Wheels review. (I assume your S-Works is a rim brake bike?). If you are ok with tubed wheels, the latest generation 303 Firecrest is a better alternative at a similar price to the Mavic. Steve
Steve,
Thank you for the reply. It has been really hard to get an honest opinion about used carbon wheels. I am running rim brakes and will look at the latest 303’s. I’ve been looking for a newer set of climbing wheels or all arounders. I live in the Rocky’s in Colorado and am minutes of multiple passes and the road condition in Colorado are sucky at best. I’ve been lusting after some shiny carbon wheels but the more I research the more I feel that a set of bombproof alloy is the way to go. I’ve looked at your aluminum rims and might choose to build one of those up with some Chris Kings, the money I’ll save can buy lots of nice tires!!
Thanks again and keep up the great work!!
Fulcrum Racing 3 are one of the best alu training wheels moneywise. In crash tests by German magazine Tour, Zipps came on top as the most durable wheels. In Bike Radar independent aero test, Hed Jet (alu carbon rim) second, Zipps third. So Zipps are good bet. But never buy carbon wheels without warranty. Brake track deteriorates over time. In some wheels, like Reynolds Assault, it dissapears within two years of light use. Don’t know how quickly it doeas on Enve and Zipp. Asked some knowledgabale friend to inspect the wheels for you or pay some wheelbuilder to do it. If I had to buy used wheels, I would look for Hed Jet alu-carbon. Great braking, smal weight penatly, great aero, no problems with overheating rims, blowout tubes, broken rims on potholes and such.
Jack,
Thanks for the reply. Like I told Steve above it has been hard to get an honest opinion about used carbon wheels. I’ve been really hesitant because I remember all the early carbon wheel fails, which is about the time when i stopped biking so much. I’ve gotten back into biking the last 5 years and really don’t know much about carbon. (My go to wheelset for most of my bikes are CK or DA on Open Pro.) I was looking into the alu/carbon wheelset like the DA C-40 but thought I should get something a bit wider. I”ll look into the HED Jet or like I said earlier might build a set on a newer rim like Boyd/HED Belgium Plus.
Danny, I was in the same spot as you, three months ago. I wanted carbon rims for my rim-brake bike and used pricing all made sense. In the end, I had custom aluminum wheels built — Easton R90, White Industry 11 hubs, Sapim spokes. Total set weighs 1,480 grams including tape. The main consideration about carbon for me was not knowing how well the rims would handle heat dissipation on downhills. In addition, everything that was for sale at Pros Closet was typically older-gen wheels and hubs, and I didn’t want that.
Consider doing a custom build with aluminum. I’m happy I did.
Bontrager Paradigm Elite TLR Road Wheel at 1,490 grams are also a great deal!
The Real Person!
Sean, That’s a good alloy upgrade wheelset that I reviewed here https://intheknowcycling.com/road-bike-wheel-upgrade/ which weighed about 1564 grams on my scale. Steve
Hi Steve, Really enjoyed reading your threads and reviews. Want a quick opinion on which you would go with. As i have done some research on the ZIP 303 firecrests disc vs Bontrager Aeolus XXX 4 disc. Would you go w/ one or the other? I am leaning toward the Bontrager, but let me know your general thoughts.
The Real Person!
Stephen, Check out this review that compares those two and others in the same performance/price category https://intheknowcycling.com/carbon-disc-wheelset/. Steve
Hello Steve,
by your opinion would you consider change from Racing Zero Nite to Zipp 302 an upgrade or not ? I was about to buy Campagnolo Bora but I’ve just got fabulous price for 302. All the reviews for them are very good.
The Real Person!
Andrej, You can answer that question better knowing your riding profile, goals, priorities and budget. Answer the questions in this post ROAD BIKE WHEELS – HOW TO CHOOSE THE BEST FOR YOU along with my reviews on these wheels to help you decide.
Hi Steve,
I have read your various reviews carefully and I am thinking of upgrading from my stock wheels (Mavic Aksium Elite) to carbon . I typically ride on flat with one significant climb (1.6 km at 7.3% avg), mostly solo. I am about 90 kg (200 pounds). Using your criteria, I would say what I value most are performance (in particular, versatility and stiffness, though some aero/comfort gain would be nice) and quality.
I have identified a number of potential budget options and would be grateful for your thoughts as to what would be most suitable, considering the above: Prime Black Edition 38 or 50 or Hunt 36 or 50 Carbon Aero Wide? I would also consider investing more if the difference is worth it (something in the range of Bontrager Aeolus Pro 3 or Zipp 302), or less if it isn’t, compared to an alloy upgrade (say Zondas or Hunt Sprint Aero Wide).
The Real Person!
Nick, Looks like you are thinking through this pretty analytically. Other considerations like goals, speeds, budget, etc. come into play. For example, if you are going fast enough to get aero performance benefits, would go with 50mm wheels since you are mostly riding flats. Recognize too that there are width, tubeless, freewheel sound differences in wheels you mentioned and others that should be considered if you want best handling, comfort and personal preference gains in addition to your stiffness and versatility considerations.
Would suggest you advance your rider profile and trade-offs further by considering the implications to the answers to questions in my post on how to buy the best wheels for you. Steve
Hi again Steve and many thanks for your answer.
I would say I am pretty close to the situation described in Example 1 of the article you referenced. To be as specific as I can be, using the questions listed therein: 1) go faster on average and have a more comfortable ride, if possible (I ride a CAAD12 which is not known to be the smoothest ride); 2) I would say my riding goal would be to increase performance on high intensity, short rides (I seldom ride for more than 100k); 3) 3-4x a week, probably around 150km total; 4) 90 kg and 250w; 5) a mix, as described above, though many of my rides involve a series of climb (about 575m over an hour, the longest one being 1.6km at 7.3%); 6) about 23kmh on my climbing route and low to mid 30s on flat; 7) I would say speed; 8) low; 9) almost exclusively solo, though I would like to do more group rides next season; 10) performance with rim brakes; 11) usually won’t ride in rain but will ride late November even if a bit wet/snowy; 12) Mavic Aksium Elite (feel slow, heavy); 13) up to USD1500.
As for the other things you mention, I probably will keep using clincher/tube for now (just got new 25mm Conti GP40000), such that tubeless readiness is not a necessity. I have no opinion on freewheel sound differences but I do note that you indicated the Hunt 50 was very loud. My own assessment is that I would certainly benefit from upgrade wheels (e.g. Zondas), and perhaps would be satisfied with them. That said, I would rather invest in wheels that I can keep growing with as my performance improves.
The Real Person!
Nick, with what you describe, I’d go with the Bontrager Aeolus Pro 5. Stiff, aero, wide/comfortable, good braking, within budget, can grow with. Good with your 25C GP4K. Steve
Those look great, thanks for the recommendation. If I may ask one last thing, I would be curious to know what your second choice would be (say I were to invest only USD1000) – would the trade off be significant? I really appreciate the help and all the work you put in your excellent website.
The Real Person!
Nick, As I hope you can tell, I’m not a fan of many of the wheels in this review. As a second choice, I’d go with the Zondas and go to a better aero carbon wheelset than those in this review when you are ready to spend the money. Steve
What would you recommend for the same requirements as above but 28C tire?
The Real Person!
Tom, I always suggest you get the right tire for the wheels you choose rather than choosing a set of wheels for the tires you want to ride. Wheels cost 10x a pair of tires and your ride performance will be determined a great deal more by your wheels than your tires. The wrong set of tires can certainly reduce the performance of a good set of wheels but a great set of tires can’t improve the performance of a bad set of wheels.
All that said, you can put 28C tires on most any of these wheels and they will cushion out the ride if you run them at the right pressure. They will also defeat any aero benefit you are looking to get from your wheels as the tires will measure wider than the wheels, preventing the air to flow smoothly from one to the other. And if you want to go with 28C, make sure you have enough room between your frame’s chainstays, forks and brake calipers so they don’t rub. Steve
Haha yes, it certainly seemed this way. Thank for confirming – I won’t be wasting hard-earned cash on “budget” carbon, then.
Hi Steve,
Thanks so much for your informative website, unparalleled online as far as I can tell. I am currently in the market for a carbon disc wheelset and have found your site to be excellent to get a good overview of the market and what’s on offer.
I do have a question about your methodology. When you say in one of your reviews that a wheelset is for example is “not aero” or is “not stiff”, do you mean it “does not feel aero” or “does not feel stiff” or do you have a methodology for measuring these variables. I think it is a critical thing for a reader to know when reading your reviews.
For example, how a wheelset feels and how it performs can often be drastically different, for example tyres might actually feel faster at very high pressures, but it might actually be much faster to run lower pressures despite feeling slow, particularly on rough terrain. This discrepancy would not be made apparent unless you used a rigorous methodology to measure the speed. Likewise for carbon rims e.g. carbon layup and other factors may drastically effect the perception of stiffness. I am also particularly interested in how you judge the aero characteristics of a wheelset.
Many thanks,
Mez
The Real Person!
Mez, Thanks for your feedback and comment. Your question about our “methodology” is a good one and what I believe separates what I’m trying to do with this site from other places you might go for input. If you are looking for a highly scientific methodology that doesn’t always translate to the road, go to Tour Magazine. If you are looking for cycling industry influenced reviews that mostly rate products at 4 or 5 stars, go to almost any ad-supported publication. If you want a methodology that favors a specific point of view or product, go to that supplier’s blog.
What I’m trying to do is provide reviews from the experience of a fellow cycling enthusiast doing what you and I do in the course of our riding. I’m attempting to emulate what other road cycling enthusiasts would feel while riding whatever we’re testing in the ways we, as road cycling enthusiasts, typically ride our gear. So, all else being equal, if a wheelset holds its momentum well at aero speeds, it’s more aero than one that doesn’t. If it doesn’t feel the crosswinds as much as another, it’s more aero. If I and my fellow testers can’t tell any difference, it has average aero performance.
Similarly, all else being equal, if a wheelset feels sloppy or rubs against the calipers going uphill or during acceleration, it’s not as stiff as one that translates the same effort much more effectively during those types of efforts. If a wheelset rails a turn and goes exactly where you want it to, it handles better than one that doesn’t. If it absorbs the roads better than another, all else being equal, it is more compliant or comfortable. Etc.
There’s a lot more about how I characterize and evaluate the performance of each measure in the section of this post called PERFORMANCE DIFFERS BETWEEN VALUE CARBON AND OTHER CARBON AND ALLOY WHEELS.
“All else being equal” is a key phrase or “control” in my “methodology”. Unless I’m testing tires, I use a benchmark – the same model tire at the same size and pressure range and use the same bikes and ride them on the same routes when I do my testing. I may change the tire pressure or size or even tire to try to find a more comfortable or better handling or more aero setup. My fellow road cycling enthusiast testers, some heavier, some more powerful, some faster, some more experienced in certain types of riding (eg. Triathlons, crits, climbs, group riding, etc.) also do what they do consistently and share their experience with the gear we pass around. This gives me a range of perspectives to compare and report back to readers who are also varied in their riding profiles.
We ride a lot of different wheelsets over enough distance and range of terrain and riding situations to be able to both evaluate the wheelset and compare it to others we’ve ridden. After doing that for a lot of wheelsets for a few years, you develop the ability to judge differences quite distinctly and consistently. Ultimately, you are relying on my and my fellow testers’ experience and judgment doing what I’ve described, how well it relates to your riding, and how independently you believe we judge products. Best, Steve
Thanks for the review on the Roval C38 – I’ve been looking at that wheelset. I noticed you were running 25mm tires on them – do you think any of the sketchiness that you described could have been due to that, since the rims have an internal 21mm width? That’s usually the sweet spot for 30-35mm tires.
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Font, Your assumption about rim and tire width sweet spot may be true for a cross or gravel wheelset but the C 38 is intended as road wheelset. And this review is all about road wheelsets. You could use the C 38 on cross or gravel bike but I haven’t tested it on one of those so can’t say how it’d perform. On the road, you don’t want a tire that’s going to measure more than the rim’s external width if you want to get any aero performance from the wheel/tire combination. On the C 38, I measured the external rim width at 26.9mm. With a 25C tire installed, like the Zipp Tangente RT25 I rode on these wheels, it measured essentially the same as the wheel’s outside width at 80 psi.
If you don’t care about aero performance, you could go with a 28C tire but that’s about the max width tire you want to put on even the widest road wheels. For example, the ENVE 4.5 AR and 3.4 AR are designed for 28C tires and have 25mm internal widths and 30-31mm external ones. Also, after the 28C, the only wider road tire I’ve seen is a 32C. Many/most road disc bikes can’t take a tire that wide. Most modern carbon road wheels these days are either 19mm internal width on rim brake wheels and 21mm one road disc ones and they are all designed for 25C tires essentially because of the chainstay, seat stay and fork widths in modern road frames. Cross and gravel bike frames have wider stay and fork openings so can take wider tires.
Roval’s gravel wheelset is the Terra CLX which is also 25mm internal width but only 32mm deep. Depending on the room in your chainstay, seat stay and fork, you could certainly go with a gravel tire from 30mm to even 45mm. You’d run them at much lower pressure (20-40 psi) than a road tire and you’d be optimizing for comfort, handling, grip, traction, etc. Steve
First, thank you for the awesome review.
I’m looking to get started with my first set of race wheels. I’m looking at the light bicycle AR56, the slightly deeper/wider brother of the AR46. I could be talked into the AR46…
Anyway, Light Bicycle wants an extra $350-400 to upgrade from Novatec hubs to DT Swiss 240. Is it worth it? I won’t be riding these in wet weather, and I’m not concerned with replacing bearings yearly (cheap anyway). My biggest concerns are:
1. Am I likely to perceive the difference between the star rachet in the 240s and the 4-pawl in the novatecs? Am I likely to damage the 4-pawl freehub quickly?
2. The Novatecs have an “Anti-Bite Guard” piece of steel to minimize cassette bite. The 240s are alloy and do not have an “anti-bite guard”. Should I be concerned about cassette bite?
Thanks again for the awesome review!
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Patrick, Novatecs hubs on the lowest rung of the hub performance and price ladder. Not being you and not knowing what gear you’ve been on, it’s hard to know what difference you would notice or whether it would be worth the price. The anti-bite guard sounds like a way to market a heavier steel hub. Yes, you do get bite on all sorts of freehubs but I’ve never found it to be an issue. Frankly, if you are concerned about hubs, I wouldn’t buy Light Bicycle wheels as they only cover the rims and don’t cover the hubs as part of their warranty. If you have an issue with the hubs on LB wheels, you have to pursue the hub maker. Sorry, but that doesn’t sound like a practical solution. Steve
Hi Steve, have you looked at the Corima carbon wheels (ideally tubular) and do you have any thoughts on those? Thanks.
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Paul, I haven’t. Tubulars are too much work for most and tubeless is now faster /lower rolling resistance though still heavier. Steve
Yeah I agree Tubular can be a lot of work, but I’ve found it to be worth it so far. Maybe tubeless tires have come a long way since I tried them last, but a few years ago I found them to lack suppleness even vs a standard clincher setup. I noticed a big improvement in ride quality switching back to clincher at the time (that was Schwalbe tubeless going back to Conti clincher).
Even in clincher though, if you’re able to include Corima in any of your tests that would be interesting. I’m deciding between Corima and Enve for a race build…
I have been planning an upgrade from my stock wheelset (Roval SLX 24) and assessing all of the technical data and reviews (from this site primarily as well as others) and I would like thoughts on if I am interpreting all of this info correctly. Background: 60 yr old, 150 lb cyclist who typically does 3,500 – 4,000 miles annually (I figure that’s not too bad given our 8-9 month riding season). I typically avg 16-17 mph on rides averaging between 35-50 miles. Terrain is primarily rolling hills (4-7% grades) with a good deal of flats between. Will head into the mountains a dozen or so times a year but those are not my primary focus. Looking at my historical data I noticed I am averaging 18-20 mph on the flats and 35-40 mph on the downhills (so yes it is the climbs that are my weakest link). Overall I am hitting the low end of the aerodynamic range for 45-55% of each ride.
So, my interpretation of all the information I’ve reviewed, I definitely want a wider rim so I can move between 25C and 28C tires for the comfort and handling will keeping within the 105 rim/wheel ratio (I’m targeting external rim widths of 27-29mm). So the question is, how much ‘aerodynamic’ benefit would I ‘gain’ going with a deeper rim profile as well. Does a depth of 40-50mm have significant advantage over a 32-36mm depth? I also regularly ride with moderate crosswinds (7-15 mph) so also need to assess that impact as well. Bottom line, do I gain much over my existing stock wheelset with deeper aerodynamic rims given my average speeds and half of my rides not making it to an aerodynamic speed?
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Hi Craig, Great distillation of the important considerations and how your numbers lay up against them. In short, you will gain significantly in aero performance over your stock wheels on the 45-55% of your ride on the flats and downhill. There are also more and better aero designs providing better aero performance in the 40-50mm range than in the shallower ones. The right 40-50mm wheels will also make crosswinds no more of an issue than shallower ones. While the DT350 on your wheelset is pretty bulletproof, there are better rolling hubs around that will your ride smoother and more enjoyable.
Don’t plan on going to 28C tires for any rim that’s under 30mm else it will defeat your aero ambitions. 25C at the right pressure will provide plenty of comfort and good handling while optimizing your aero gains.
I will also say that body position will be far more important to aero performance than wheels and your training/fitness will matter most. But, assuming you’ve got your training and technique dialed in, wheel differences will begin to show up. Steve
Really useful material, Steve, on the range of wheels on the market. I was looking to upgrade my lower end alloy Fulcrums that came standard on the Bianchi Infinito with a carbon aero clincher for a variety of road terrains. Your in-depth reviews made me realize I needed to expand my horizons. Found the right deal on Zipps through Merlin on your site. Thanks!
Gary
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Gary, Thanks for your kind feedback and for supporting the site. Enjoy your wheels! Steve
Hi Steve,
Any thoughts on the Rol C45 wheels?
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Ahmed, No experience with them. Steve
What tires did you test the Light Bicycle AR56 with? Would you mind measuring actual width/height and sharing? I’ve purchased a set or AR56 and I’m just trying to plan ahead for what tires will work.
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Patrick, I tested the WR46C02, not the ones you bought. You can see the rim specs in the review above. I rode them with a set of Zipp Tangente RT25 (25C) which measured 27.2mm wide at 80psi. I don’t measure tire height. Steve
Hi Steve. Thanks for the review, insightful! Any experience with Scribe wheels or have you heard about them from others who have used them? Considering their 42 wide+. I am not a super experienced rider and I am simply looking to upgrade for a solid all around wheel to have fun on. Thanks.
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Jesper, Haven’t looked at them. Their principal did send me a note introducing himself and the business that released their first product last May. His background is with CRC and their Prime wheels business and then with Hunt. I’d expect their approach would be similar to the other Branders in this review rather than as a technology/product designer more typical of the integrated or regionals. Would be hard for me to ride or recommend a wheelset from such a new company. Steve
Hi Steve, thanks! Appreciate it a lot. Speaking of my needs and budget; I am looking for a set of wheels to back me up in mostly flat and lightly windy conditions. My budget is around the 1.000 – 1.500 USD. I am intermediate and not looking for the best of the best but simply to upgrade. Would appreciate the wheels accommodating width for tires (currently riding 28mm), “comfort”, aero features and being tubeless ready. Anything/anyone(s) I should be looking towards? Thanks.
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Jesper, You are describing a 25C, $2000-2500 wheelset. If you’ve closely read the reviews of all the wheels above, you’ll see that nothing we’ve tested in this price range does all of that or even most of what you want. You might want to read my review on how to choose the right wheelset for you and start your search from there. And I’d suggest you never pick a wheelset based on what width tire you can get on it. 28C “comfort” tires aren’t aero except on 25C wide road wheels while there are plenty of road wheels that are aero at speed with a properly inflated 25C tire. Oh, and most 25C tires measure close to 28mm. Steve
Hi Steve, what are your thoughts on Hunt’s alloy aero wheels when compared to these ‘value’ carbon wheels.
Cheers
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Ben, Hunt makes a few alloy wheels with the word “Aero” in the name. They range from 34mm to 27mm deep. You don’t get much if any aero benefit from wheels at that depth. So as a minimum, the name is misleading. You can see my review of their all-around carbon wheelset in the review above. It’s the only Hunt wheelset I’ve reviewed. As you can read in the review, Miles and I weren’t fans of the wheelset and I was even less a fan of the buying and customer service with them. Steve
According to Hambini website, the worst wheels are Hunt and Flo.
https://www.hambini.com/testing-to-find-the-fastest-bicycle-wheels/
Yoeleo that Steve tested recently, rate very high.
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Note that Hambini only tests for wheelset aero performance. My performance criteria include versatility, stiffness, responsiveness, comfort, handling, braking, and aero (including crosswind management). Further, Hambini’s conclusion is that aero is more a function of wheelset depth than rim shape, regardless of wheelset brand. As Jack points out, Hunt and Flo were exceptions to that Hambini’s conclusion as their aero performance per his testing were outside the norm for their wheel depths.
From my review of Hambini’s results, neither the FLO or Hunt wheelsets were more than 3% worse in their aero drag in watts than the average of the others of similar depth. Same goes with Yoeleo on the plus side. I’m not saying that the deeper FLO and Hunt wheels don’t have worse aero performance or that Yoeleo’s isn’t better, I’m just saying the differences are small even for these deeper wheels and that other performance considerations matter too and more.
Those other considerations, e.g. versatility, stiffness, responsiveness, etc. and some of the non-performance ones e.g. warranty, customer service, etc., made me recommend against buying any of the wheels from those brands I tested in this review. Steve
Hi Steve,
Jacob from Denmark here. I am an eager reader of your articles and findings, thanks a lot for all the info given.
I was wondering if you have considered a review of the relatively new HUNT 36 UD CARBON SPOKE WHEELSET? They seem to have incorporated a series of new tech to the wheelset and bringing the weight down to under 1300 grams for a clincher is quite significant.
Thanks in adv. for your respond.
/Jacob
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Regarding Hunt – I’m not considering doing any more reviews of Hunt wheels at this time. As I’ve written above, I’m not enamored of their business model, had a bad experience with their customer service which confirmed my concerns about their operations, and didn’t care much for their wheelset which includes a hub they use in many other wheelsets they sell. I’ll have nothing more to say than I have in the comments and post above and will not post additional comments asking about Hunt wheelsets, some of which are wittingly or unwittingly part of their marketing efforts. Steve
Steve-
You probably noticed but for your readers that haven’t yet, enve has released a “foundation” series of carbon wheels for $1600. Right now there is a “45” and a “65” on offer. 21mm ID / 28mm OD and either 45 or 65 mm in depth. Hub is new and spokes are presumably lesser versions than the SES series. Rim is hookless but apparently the conti 5000TL is *approved* in 25mm size.
Curious what enve had to do to take almost $1000 of cost (profit?) out of their wheel sets but would be curious if this piques your interest in the “value carbon” category. I’m sure about 99% of the posts you get are requests to review xyz wheelset but please add these to your never ending list! Any chance you have a non test opinion?
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Thanks Frank, Hope to test them later this spring or summer. Any opinion at this point would be based only on a review of the price, specs, looks, brand, and marketing, all of which are reasons why some buy wheelsets (and others write positive product release stories about them), but none of which I use to judge their performance. Would free up a lot of my time though! 🙂 Will get back to you. Best Steve
Hi Steve. You mentioned Tokyowheel as one of the branders in part 1, however, I didn’t see you make mention of them for actual testing in part 2. I’m curious to know how they performed as compared to the others. Were they actually tested?
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Bo, I did more than mention Tokyowheel in Part 1. I also described the controversy created by their owner who first claimed in a forum that Tokyowheels were designed by his company and made in the company’s factories and later posted that they neither claim was true. I also stated that I’d sent him emails to update me on their engineering and production activities for their current line of wheels and had not heard back from him. Under these circumstances, I can’t recommend readers consider this company’s wheels or their claims about warranties and returns so didn’t proceed to testing their wheels. In the somewhat murky world of young company Branders and Manufacturers, a company’s integrity and business practices are an important consideration. Steve
Thanks for the info Steve. Appreciate the time spent on this and the data provided!
If you ever get the opportunity a review of Cero RC50s would be appreciated. On paper they look very good value but very few reviews out there.